This uncut recording of Tupac speaking to writer Benjamin Svetkey at a Hollywood restaurant in 1994 is kind of chilling. After ‘Pac orders some spring rolls and Dungeness crab cakes, he opens the conversation with the following answer to Svetkey’s question about where he saw himself in the next 10 to 15 years:

Best case: in a cemetery. Not in a cemetery. Sprinkled in ashes, smoked up by my homies. Worst case… I mean that’s the worst case. That’s the worst case. That’s the worst case. Best case: multimillionaire. Owning all of this shit.

As we now know, ‘Pac’s seemingly paranoid musings were tragically on-point. Within 3 years he would be gone, shot down in the streets of Vegas, his ashes later sprinkled into a blunt by the Outlawz.

This animated clip was put together by the PBS blog Blank on Blank as part of their ongoing series of lost interviews with iconic figures. You can read the profile of ‘Pac that Svetkey wrote for Entertainment Weekly after this meeting here.